Minutes of the 32nd Annual Meeting, held at St Mellion resort at 1100 on Friday 22 March 2024
Present
Owners:
Alan Mace (L2 W37) (AMa)
Richard and Julie Green (L5 W 18) (RG)
Catherine Bowness (L7 W51) (CB)
Robert Blake (L5 W36) (RB)
Lynn Rayson
Jenny Martin
Louise Dalglish
Committee Members:
Andy Martin (Chair) (AM)
Colin Rayson (CR)
Peter Barnes (PB)
John Dalglish (Secretary) (JD)
Crown Golf and St Mellion personnel:
Thierry Delsol (Crown Golf Director) (TD)
Nick Lawson (St Mellion Resort Director) (NL)
Kirstine Hitchcock (St Mellion Operations Manager) (KH)
Stephanie Latham (Time Share Administrator)(SL)
Attending via Microsoft Teams
Owners:
Martin Binns (MB)
Neil Hollister
John Pounsford
Graham Martin (GM)
Peter Lyons (L2 W27, L5 W28) (PL)
Geoff Milsted (L5 ex-L6 W35) (GM)
Peter Robdrup (L7 W33) (PR)
Crown Golf and St Mellion personnel:
Paul Stephens (Crown Golf Director) (PS)
Robbie Smith (Finance Director) (RS)
Apologies for Absence (owners)
Yvonne and Martin Meronti (L7 W14)
Tony Laurillard (L9, migrating to L5 W48)
Neil Arnott (L4 W14)
Ian Wheeler
Michael Luntley (L4 W35)
(Has appointed the Chair as proxy, in the event of any vote)
Sue Mullen (L3 W20 & W34)
Wendy and James Hellis (L2 W14 & L5 W37)
John Jones (L17 W32)
Alan and Tess Dick (L7 W25)
Agenda Items 1- 4
The chairman welcomed everyone able to attend the 32nd Annual Meeting of St Mellion Time Share Owners’ Association, either in person or virtually by MS Teams. A full list of those attending and who submitted apologies for absence is contained in these minutes. The minutes of the last meeting, held on 24 March 2023, were approved. There had been 2 outstanding actions. Firstly, St Mellion undertook an action to check the functionality of the electricity meters in the lodges, following some queries raised about high bills. KH confirmed this had been successfully completed. The second action had been on the secretary to arrange the next committee meeting in May that year – this was done.
Agenda Item 5 – Chairman’s Report
AM presented his annual report to the meeting, welcoming the new senior management team recently established at Crown Golf and the resort. A copy of the report is attached to these minutes at Appendix A.
As part of the committee changes, the Chairman thanked the Secretary for his work on the committee and in particular as Secretary covering the past 3 Annual Meetings. A presentation was made to JD, who thanked everyone and said how much he and his wife Louise had enjoyed their 7 years at St Mellion.
Agenda Item 6 – Statutory Accounts of SMPM Ltd
Copies of these were made available with the calling notice for the Annual Meeting. There were no questions raised with regard to either the completed accounts for 2023, or the management accounts to January 2024.
Agenda Item 7 – St Mellion Management Report, Occupancy Grid and 10-year Review
NL, the new resort director, introduced himself, having taken over the reins at the turn of the year. He outlined some of the challenges facing Time Share, highlighting the need for a more constructive business plan to inform the postponed 10-year review, which will now be carried out this year. NL thanked the St Mellion team, in particular SL and KH, for their work on chasing debtors and consolidating lodge numbers. NL confirmed the RPI figure of 4.9% to be used to apply the increase in the annual maintenance fee for 2024/25.
SL and KH reported that 39 weeks had been consolidated so far and debtors had been reduced from 13 to 6. This remains work in progress, with the aim of removing all bad debt by this time next year. AM asked what the process is for chasing bad debts. KH explained that nothing had happened during Covid-19, St Mellion had then tried taking a hard line using a debt collection agency, which yielded no positive results. KH took it upon herself to contact owners directly and give them the opportunity to settle their debts or end their agreements and return the leases – a number of debtors have since relinquished their leases. Hence a number of weeks are now available.
SL added that some owners had asked to swap weeks – fine if available – and some ex-owners have asked to rent spare lodges for a week. RCI owners are often disappointed when exchanging weeks at the resort, as they expect the lodge specification to be similar to that of the holiday cottages advertised on the hotel web site. Ex-owners know what to expect. Consolidation continues, so spare weeks are not yet being advertised but could be in future – AM agreed. CB asked what the flat rate is for renting spare weeks. NL replied that this is something to be discussed and agreed with the committee and will be done as part of the business review. Maximising available spare weeks makes sense from both parties’ points of view.
AMe asked how many exchange weeks have St Mellion had? SL: we don’t know but RCI is main participant now. AMe commented that St Mellion weeks will pale by comparison with other time share operators’ accommodation. SL responded that the aim would be to modernise the lodges after consolidation, finances permitting.
RG queried whether St Mellion would consider selling additional weeks following consolidation and how would any such process work. AM: once we know who has paid and consolidation exercise is complete, this would all fall into the review due to start at next meeting in May. RG stated that he considers time share weeks good VFM, the lodges work for him and he would like to purchase additional weeks. He would not be interested in long-term leases of 10 or 20 years, but a 5-year term would appeal with the right marketing. TD affirmed that the business review should aim to make the scheme as viable as possible, which would include any marketing strategy.
Noting that there is now a large number of vacant weeks, PR questioned the potential clash with St Mellion’s interests, if the time share weeks were advertised, as this could disadvantage the resort’s accommodation bookings. JD: a good point; priority would be given to current and ex-SMTOA members for such weeks, with new customers being directed to hotel cottages.
Agenda Item 8 – Election of Committee
AM explained that the constitution stipulates a total of 6 committee members (quorum requires 4), dating from the creation of the committee when there were several hundred owners. The much lower numbers indicate a membership of 4 (with a quorum of 3) would be appropriate to carry out committee work. The proposal was carried unanimously.
The secretary is standing down after this year’s annual meeting, creating a vacancy. MB has applied to join the committee and briefly introduced himself as an actuary with experience of financial administration and property management. He has been a time share user at the resort for about 25 years. He was voted in unanimously.
Two other owners have expressed an interest in joining the committee – PL and PR. PL asked if 5 members would be better than 4 on the committee, given the amount of work coming up under the 10-year review. AMexplained that the scheme is running low on funds and it would be prudent to reduce to 4 owners on the committee; he thought also that the work should be manageable. PR had applied to join the committee previously but his application this year was received after the deadline of 15 March. PL and PR were encouraged to apply next year, if still interested.
The chairman was reappointed and CR was reappointed as temporary secretary. Both votes were uncontested, with one abstention in each case. The next committee meeting will be on 14 May 2024, via MS Teams.
GM then asked what the process is for appointing new committee members, according to the constitution. JD read out the relevant sections of the constitution. The key points are:-
• An owner seeking to be elected or re-elected to the committee shall give written notice not less than 30 days prior to the relevant Annual Meeting to the secretary
• Be proposed and seconded by owners
• Declare if they have any family ties with an existing committee member
In this context PR complained that he had not had a lease for the past 5 years, had not been able to attend these meetings and that various St Mellion staff had not resolved the issue until SL had stepped in. PR expressed his gratitude for SL’s involvement in sorting out his lease. PR was again assured that there would be vacancies on the committee next year and he said that he would re-apply.
Agenda Item 9 – Questions from Owners(and Answers)
The secretary had forwarded all questions received from owners to committee members and the Crown Golf/St Mellion team prior to the meeting. These are included verbatim in the minutes – see below. Comments arising from discussion at the annual meeting are inserted after the relevant question.
Four questions from Peter Claverley, L5 W 29 and 30.
1. approach to debtors – it appears from paperwork over the years that the SMTOA has been very patient (maybe too patient ?) with owners who have not paid their fees. Once the SMTOA has made sure that the late payment is not accidental, I feel (if it’s legally possible) that we should take the properties back without delay – it’s just not fair on those owners who have paid promptly. I see this as a black and white issue.
Comment: the committee has no authority in this matter but supports the work of SL and KH in particular in chasing down such debt. PR opined that this is about chasing monies owed to the time share community and noted that no-one had yet been taken to court. This should be of concern to us. AM agreed that it is a concern but the main aim is to reacquire the leases from debtors, in order to put them back into Time Share usage.
PR raised the issue of whether the landlord is in breach of its own lease, since a range of original facilities at St Mellion resort were no longer available – e.g. tennis courts and bowling green. He would like the committee to look into this. RB subsequently clarified that the leases had been officially altered 10 or more years ago, to reflect the loss of some of the original facilities, including squash courts. The chairman thanked RB for his helpful contribution.
2. 10 year review – I see that the 10 year review has been put back till 2025 because further work needs to be done. Will the background to the delay be discussed at the March 22 meeting?
Comment: SL explained that the delay has been caused by the time taken in the consolidation process and new management coming on the scene. The 10-year review work will kick off at the May meeting with the Time Share committee.
3. building development – is this still on the agenda or has it gone away?
Comment: NL confirmed that there are no plans in the pipeline. Planning approval, however, remainsin place indefinitely.
4. occupancy grid – are we now down to our preferred 6 properties or is this issue still under discussion? If a final decision has not been made, what are the issues that need to be resolved?
Comment: NL answered that lodge numbers have reduced to 8, going down to 7 by 2025 (a lot of work has been needed to achieve this reduction). There ensued a discussion about maintenance of the lodges. PR expressed the view that there is a gulf between the time share and hotel lodges – the latter being in a better state. Is there one single maintenance schedule or 2 separate systems? KH explained that maintenance costs for time share lodges have to be borne out of the time share budget. The aim is to have fewer lodges, which would allow potentially for more funds for maintenance.
In response to the suggestion by PR that he would happy to do a bit of DIY on the lodges when staying there, such as some painting, he was encouraged by AM to check with St Mellion management during any visit what was possible. RB raised the issue of missing roof slates (which was mentioned last year); KH replied that in-house maintenance crews cannot go onto rooves – such repairs require attendance by third party contractors, which is expensive. KH and SL have to weigh up the cost of repairs vs urgency of requirement. RB was keen to stress that he enjoyed the lodge
Two questions from Peter Lyons, L2 W 27 and L5 W 28.
1. Does each lodge have its own ‘maintenance/upkeep budget’ based on the percentage of occupied weeks in that lodge as a portion of the total occupancy? E.g. if there were 3 lodges in the arrangement which had a budget of £300 one of which was occupied 40 out of 50 weeks and the other two were occupied 20 out of 50 weeks each would the budget be split as £100 to each lodge or £150 to one lodge and £75 to each of the other two lodges?
2. If lodges are being released back to the hotel and owners consolidated into the remaining lodges are their ‘contributions’ to the upkeep being also transferred into the budget for maintenance for the remaining lodges? E.g. if the owners have contributed £1000 to maintenance/upkeep in their lodge and the lodge is being returned to the hotel will this £1000 be transferred to the lodges remaining in the scheme or will the hotel keep it?
Secretary Comment: Without prejudging St Mellion’s reply to your specific queries, my understanding of the way the maintenance budget is managed is that all fees go into a communal pot, which is used to maintain however many lodges remain in the time share estate. There is no apportionment along the lines indicated in your first question.
Similarly, any annual maintenance fee paid by an owner goes into that pot to be used for lodge upkeep etc., not to the hotel. Hopefully St Mellion will clarify/confirm.
Comment: NL confirmed that the secretary’s comments above answer both questions correctly.The communal pot for maintenance will be used on a ‘priority needs’ basis across the Time Share portfolio, as KH outlined earlier. CB wished to be assured that maintenance needs would be addressed on this basis, as it would not be fair for users of a less well used lodge to have any uneven allocation of maintenance funds in respect of that lodge. PR agreed with the principle of keeping the Time Share estate on “a level playing field”.
Further question from Peter Lyons: I have one final question for the meeting based on your responses to my other questions and this is as follows:
With the revised occupancy and available budget for renovations when will we as owners be told of the revised renovation plans and will we have a chance to input into the priorities and actions to be taken?
Comment: this will form part of the 10-year business review, which will include finances (SL).PL suggested that people might be prepared to pay more into the maintenance fund, to ensure better outcomes.
A question from Ian Wheeler, who has sent his apologies for the meeting today.
Once consolidation is complete will the remaining Lodges be refurbished to restore them to the standard of accommodation pertaining to that of a ‘Gold Crown’ resort? As we believe this would encourage existing owners to remain long term and support the promotion of new owners.
Secretary Comment: in response to a statement I made to Ian regarding the financial position and the likelihood that any investment in the lodges would have to be found from other resources within Crown Golf, Ian has asked the following supplementary question:-
Yes, I’ve seen the financial statement and understand the financial position, so appreciate there is not funding available with only 127 weeks in the group. Maybe as part of the question it could be suggested that if Crown Golf were to fund the refurbishments then they would have the option to rent unoccupied weeks and therefore a potential ROI?
Comment: NL – a valid point, which we will take up in the 10-year review process under the business plan.
Two questions from Geoff Milsted, L5 (formerly L6) W35
Looking at the occupancy grid and despite the proposed amalgamations, there appears to be a large number of unoccupied weeks. In respect of this, has the committee considered –
1. The possibility of selling the vacant weeks (probably not practical in the current climate) or……
2. The possibility of annually offering vacant weeks to existing holders at a reduced weekly charge on the basis that at the moment there is currently no income in respect of these weeks and the reduced charge would at least contribute towards overall costs.
Secretary Comment: I replied to Geoff that these options had been discussed with St Mellion management in the past, along with other ideas to increase revenue for the Time Share community, but no agreement had been reached on formalising any of them.
Comment: NL – Good idea and we shall look at these options as part of the 10-year review with the aim of supporting the Time Share community.
In response to a question from PR about tasking the committee to provide answers to such questions as raised today, AM assured that the committee does indeed provide answers to owners, via its web site, where all the committee meeting minutes are posted. AM will enable SMTOA web site access to PR.
Agenda Item 10 – AOB
NL reiterated that the purpose of the 10-year review will be to determine the consolidation position, financials, how vacant weeks can be marketed, maintenance programmes etc. All these aspects will be factored into the review of the whole business.
Agenda Item 11 – Closure of Meeting
The Chairman thanked everyone for attending the meeting, adding that he felt more positive about the future for Time Share at St Mellion than for some time. He assured owners that the committee would continue to work closely with St Mellion management on owners’ behalf. The meeting closed at 1240.
John Dalglish (Secretary)
APPENDIX A
CHAIRMAN’S REPORT to ANNUAL MEETING 2024
2023 has been relatively quiet compared with recent years and has felt like we are back to normal so we can start to move forward once again. The major change has been a new senior management team put in place with Nick Lawson the new Resort Director, Paul Stephens Crown Golf Director, Robbie Smith Crown Golf Finance Director & Thierry Delsol Crown Golf Director.
Kirstine Hitchcock Operations Manager is still here & Stephanie Latham Time Share administrator has returned from maternity leave and they are all here to answer your questions either 121 or in this meeting.
To remind you, the objective of the timeshare owners Association is to represent the interests of the Owners as a whole. The Association is managed by the Committee, it makes decisions that are appropriate and consistent with the Constitution, the Leases and its objective.
With this in mind since my last report in March 2023, the changes have been the reduction in timeshare owners from 145 to 126 timeshare weeks which means we seemed to have bottomed out in people leaving their timeshares. Your committee has worked very hard with St Mellion to consolidate the timeshares from 10 to 6 lodges which would be Lodges 1-5 & Lodge 7. St Mellion are currently reviewing all of the financial information and implications
around the consolidation down to 6 lodges. Everyone who has been affected has been contacted and offered alternatives with only a handful left to decide what they want to do.
Kirstine & Stephanie will go through the occupancy grid and consolidation process later in the meeting to show the present position. Your committee has met with St Mellion management four times during the year and on each occasion our main focus has been sustainability plus continuance of Timeshares and we feel we are in a position to build on what we have with the aim to promote vacant timeshare weeks to increase income into the scheme.
We continue to get reassurance that St Mellion wants the scheme to work and with this in mind the 10 yearreview has been delayed by 1 year so a plan can be put in place, that is the future vision, with a timetable, to ensure the continued viability of the scheme. That means the RPI figure to be used for the 2024/2025 fee increase is 4.90%, this is the RPI figure for January 2024.
Committee Changes
As Chairman I would like to thank all the hard work of your committee during the last 12 months and especially John Dalglish who is leaving at this Annual Meeting as he has exited
the scheme. John has been on the committee for 3 years and Secretary for 2 years, he has been a welcome addition and will be sorely missed.
I have pleasure in presenting a small gift to John in recognition of his contribution to the committee and wish him all the best in the future.
Therefore, we now have a vacancy on the committee so if anyone is interested in finding out more, please speak to me or John Dalglish and we will go through what’s involved.
Finally, it is with great optimism I look forward to the future of timeshares at St Mellion and working with the management team to ensure its continued success.
Andy Martin Chairman, St Mellion Time Owners Committee
4 Green Farm Close Castor Peterborough CambsPE5 7BE
andy.martin@btinternet.com www.smtoa.co.uk